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Plus Sized Find on Ebay

I was browsing ebay....



THIS IS MY NEW FAVORITE SELLER.

Not because his clothes are awesome -- and they are, particularly the dress to which I linked, which has a 46 inch bust, by the way and someone fabulous ought to buy it because it ROCKS (it's a Lane Bryant evening dress from the 60s, how cool is that?) -- but because he models the larger sizes himself and seems to have the most fun ever doing it.

What do you fantastic fatties think of this?

(For the record, his disclaimer is very judgemental about men who wear women's clothing. Not cool. I get the feeling, from reading questions and answers, that it's something he's never really thought about or had challenged. So I am disturbed by it but also conflicted because I think he is also fabulous.)

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[info]opn

January 25 2007, 21:02:23 UTC 5 years ago

Omg, did you see his "unitard" auction?

[info]onceupon

January 25 2007, 21:07:02 UTC 5 years ago

YES! The stories behind the clothes are just.... I love it.

Notice the alien writing - I think, translated, it means "Superstarrrr!!!"

[info]rosewater

January 25 2007, 21:14:15 UTC 5 years ago

The disclaimer left a little bit of a bad taste in my mouth (like any use of the phrase "alpha male"), but honestly, a guy who's this comfortable hamming it up to 11 and then posting photos on the internet is in my good books for permanent. Even if he does look a little like one of my cousins.

[info]onceupon

January 25 2007, 21:17:10 UTC 5 years ago

I'm glad I'm not the only one who cannot stand that phrase, alpha male.

Yeah, there are a lot of conflicting signals coming out of these auctions. *headshake*

The Date With a Dress auction is killing me.

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[info]1967_colt45

January 25 2007, 21:43:05 UTC 5 years ago

to me his disclaimer sounds like he's joking

[info]onceupon

January 25 2007, 21:46:50 UTC 5 years ago

I can't tell in text-only. Everything is so tongue-in-cheek that I can certainly hope he is.

[info]onceupon

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[info]_keena

January 25 2007, 22:07:43 UTC 5 years ago

*snaps fingers* HATED IT!

i'm offended.. its not cute nor is it funny
the end!

[info]onceupon

January 25 2007, 22:10:13 UTC 5 years ago

Re: *snaps fingers* HATED IT!

I respect that not everyone is going to find stuff funny, but it would be really great if you could tell me why you hated it.

What offends you about this guy?

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[info]onceupon

January 25 2007, 22:39:48 UTC 5 years ago

Eat pancakes in palazzo pants!

It's almost Seussian.

I STILL can't decide how to read that remark. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, you know? But I also want to say something to him.

[info]theoryofgravity

January 25 2007, 23:18:19 UTC 5 years ago

I SMELL A MERGER!

[info]hawkward

January 25 2007, 23:39:57 UTC 5 years ago

Ahahaha! What a ham. Aah, I think it's funny, over-the-top (so to speak). Doesn't bother me.

[info]onceupon

January 26 2007, 00:32:53 UTC 5 years ago

His photos and stories just crack me up.

[info]fabulouskel

January 25 2007, 23:57:29 UTC 5 years ago

How about a little ham n' eggs with that dress. He cracks me up. I think it's total hammy performance on a global scale. He certainly has got a lot of milage on a lot of blogs with his approach.

[info]onceupon

January 26 2007, 00:33:30 UTC 5 years ago

I'd bet money he tried stand-up comedy at some point.

[info]sarrabellum

January 26 2007, 01:06:10 UTC 5 years ago

Implying that men who wear women's clothing are freaks = ASSHOLE. He can piss off as far as I'm concerned. I don't care how he meant it.

[info]onceupon

January 26 2007, 01:11:23 UTC 5 years ago

I find it very difficult to paint people with such absolutes.

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[info]anadamous

January 26 2007, 01:56:12 UTC 5 years ago

I just can't tell with this guy; I'd have to meet him.

On the one hand, he could just be someone with more personality than writing ability. He meant to make a sort of jolly disclaimer that also cut down on the 500 creepy emails he was receiving a day, and in doing so, pushed a lot of our buttons. (I'm sort of surprised that no one has mentioned that - the disclaimer probably happened because he was getting flooded with poorly spelled and worsely conceived messages from crazy, creepy people.) Oh well, it's the internet; on the internet, we've all got to do our best not to offend other people, but give other people the benefit of the doubt.

On the other hand, there is just enough something happening in his writing and expressions that I would frankly be a little creeped out about wearing something he'd worn and was selling. Why does this man have so many women's clothes anyway?

In sum - I'm neither confident enough to commit to repudiate, nor confident enough to support him (materially).

[info]rainbowthespian

January 26 2007, 02:31:03 UTC 5 years ago

How about just direct him to this page and offer up the conversation for perusal?

Seeing someone's response is sometimes the most telling.

[info]onceupon

January 26 2007, 02:39:37 UTC 5 years ago

I was actually considering that! I'm thinking he would be amused (as [info]rosewater observed earlier) and maybe interested in the discussion.

[info]beautyofgrey

January 26 2007, 17:28:32 UTC 5 years ago

Living in the bible belt and in a very homophobic community, I... well, I've learned to tolerate a lot of the ignorance. Sometimes it drives me up the damn wall and I rant about it, and other times...well, most people have good intentions. I have the feeling this guy is, as you said above, in one of those parts of the country where perhaps the idea of NOT needing such a disclaimer is unheard of.

Does it display a bit of ignorance and homophobia, perhaps? Yes. Is it intended to be degenerative to non-straight, transgender, or transsexual males? I don't necessarily think so. Perhaps the guy didn't want to get poked too hard by his work buddies or his wife insisted he put in a disclaimer. Who knows? I do think you ought to write him and ask him why he felt he needed such a disclaimer. :)

[info]onceupon

January 26 2007, 17:33:44 UTC 5 years ago

I actually wrote him and linked to this whole discussion so he can, if he follows the link, see what everyone thinks about it. I tend to side with you on this one.

[info]shop4uby4me

January 26 2007, 18:57:22 UTC 5 years ago

I guess that I have been discussed somewhat here regarding my listings. I love all your comments. I think I should start by letting you all know how I started doing these auctions.
Circa 8 months ago I was bugging my girlfriend about her listings on eBay. She is a very serious eBay vintage clothes seller. She uses models. Other eBay sellers, who also used models, seemed to do very well in selling. I kept poking at her about her models and format and she finally told me that I should get my own ID and do my own listings. I started with ties and she thought it was very funny - we both came up with the idea about dresses - we haven't stopped laughing since.
It has been such an experience - now about the alpha dominant male thing - My girfriend and I were in the grocery store just minding our own business and planning my first dress auction (my girlfriend is my photographer by the way) Some stranger had been quietly listening in and then interupted our conversation and very loudly told me that I was an "alpha dominant male" and that my girlfriend should try to tame me - I don't think the stranger actually knew we were talking about me wearing the dress...We decided to use it in my disclaimer as a joke...
That's my story and I am sticking to it. As far as selling - I never thought I would sell anything - I never expected it...The best price ever paid for all my auctions combined together - was an email from a woman who wrote:

I have been follwing yor auctions for the past few days. I have never laughed so hard. This is important to me as I have recurring cancer and you have taken my mind off my problems as of late...

That is and always has been my intentions on my eBay site...To make people laugh and bring a few smiles...Oh by the way, in planning out some of the dress auctions I decided to take a close look at the other eBayer's models and poses. Most of my poses are really spoofs on some of the sellers on eBay. Some people get the poses - some don't - but most of the sellers are on the pulse for womens vintage clothes on eBay - if you go there you might get a clue of which ones I am copying for the week.

Thank you for inviting me to the Journal - you all are great whether you like my auctions or not - If I made you smile it was well worth it to me....

I'll be back

Fred

[info]shop4uby4me

January 26 2007, 20:18:51 UTC 5 years ago

Oh yes - I forgot about the rest of the disclaimer - When I first started I had emails from a few men who had some comments because I was wearing and dress and from other men, with entirely differant opinions who had their comments to make - so the disclaimer has stopped all the rude comments from both sides...phew - I think I confused myself with that paragraph...

[info]highyella

January 26 2007, 21:18:25 UTC 5 years ago

thanks for directing me here

At first I read the disclaimer as totally tongue and cheek (I mean my drag-queendar went off immediately) and I thought it was the type of joke that only those in the queer community would get. (Kind of like when my queenie friends play "straight male" to the extreme)

Now that I read his reponse. I think that perhaps some of his language was problematic (particularly the term "freak") but the intent was in a comic way (i.e. "alpha male") to end the flood of both hateful, suggestive, and misinformed e-mails he was getting. In the end his "inside joke" with his GF partially failed in that some people found it offensive. Then again, I find sellers who sell Mammy memorabilia touting the glorious ole' south offensive, so I DON'T BUY FROM THEM.

He wants to amuse people and sell his clothes. To me, neither his stories nor his poses seem disrespectful to women (at least not the ones that I have read). Nor, disrespectful to queers (again, at least not the ones I have read)

Actually what bothered my post was the poster who dismissive of your comment assuming that you either weren't GLBT or that you didn't have GLBT friends. I'm glad you called out that assumption.

And since we're playing the "some of my best friends are black queer. I am a femme lesbian, who just got out of a LTR with a transman, whose best friend is a trans-identified gay boy, who performs in a troupe doing what we call "draglesque" with queer women, transpeople, gay men, and drag queens.
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